07 April 2010
I'll Take Hijacking For $120, Alex. OK, How About $30? No? What About For Free?
As I mentioned earlier, there appears to be a concerted effort by Ron Paul's disciples to hijack the Southern Republican Leadership Conference this week in New Orleans. Paul's political arm, Campaign for Liberty, had been selling tickets to the event for $30 to the faithful, or $90 off price. I suppose that didn't spur the adoring to action as much as C4L thought (times are tough - guess their moms didn't have the extra cash), so now C4L is giving tickets away.
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...while a well-funded group called Evangelicals for Mitt – which says it operates independently of Romney’s official campaign – offered some 200 tickets for free to Republicans who would commit in writing to voting for Romney in the straw poll.
Romney wins SRLC straw poll
I guess, however, it's OK for the Evangelicals to hijack the party, again.
The most important civil liberty I expect from my government, is my right to be kept alive - Mitt Romney
mike m:
I know the results. I voted in the straw poll.
While
While I do not subscribe to his theology, Romney is a Republican - as are his supporters. If Romney bailed to a third party, few of his supporters would move with him. They are Republicans, voting in a Republican straw poll at a Republican event.
Paul is a Republican because he couldn't get elected as a Libertarian.
Paul's supporters at SRLC were about as Republican as I am Marxist. They are wherever Paul is, nothing more. Paul is the issue, Paul is the focus - not the message or the ideals. That kind of highly-organized cult of personality quite frankly scares the shit out of me. It gave us Obama.
I am hoping this loss will take some of the inflated wind out of Paul's sails, and help him fade away in the GOP. Or, at the least, delude him into bolting to make a third party run again, and taking his devotees with him. They won't stay in the GOP if Paul leaves, because they aren't Republicans.
mike m:
What do you consider yourself? A Republican, or a Paul supporter?
If Paul isn't the GOP nominee, would you still vote Republican?
Clifford,
I'm afraid you don't really know what Republican is, or was, I should say. You'd have to go back to Robert Taft. He was the last real Republican. The Republican Party changed considerably when he was defeated by Dewey, in '48. Dewey was a liberal Northeastern Republican. Ron Paul's politics goes back to the Republican Party that opposed FDR's New Deal, and Truman's wars. Ron Paul is only trying to get the Republican Party back to its roots. I think it's a losing effort, which is why I consider myself a Right Libertarian.
Ron Paul is probably the only candidate I will vote for in either party. In my view, there is only one party in this country, the Big Government Party. How much difference is there really between Obama and Bush? Obama gave us Obamacare, Bush gave us Medicare part D. Bush gave us TARP, Obama Stimulus. Obama's immigration reform will probably look a lot like Bush's. Energy policy? Not much difference there, either. Cap and trade is just a shift in subsidies to energy companies. There are still detainees in Gitmo, we still torture,we are still fighting two very real conventional unconstitutional wars, plus a war on drugs and a war on terror. We still have the most despicable law against the American people ever conceived on the books, known as the Patriot Act. Anybody, who truly supports freedom, can not, in good conscience, support the Patriot Act. I really don't see much difference between Romney and Obama, either. Once one strips away all of the political hackery and looks at real policy, and what is really going on in DC, the truth becomes evident. BOTH parties want to expand the federal government, and BOTH parties want to take more of our freedoms.
Ron Paul is the only candidate who stands on real principles. Sound money and economic freedom, personal liberty, and a government that abides by the Constitution.
I guess what it really comes down to, for me, is economics. Republicans and Democrats both subscribe to the failed Keynesian economic theory. They both want to centrally control the economy. One of the fundamental definitions of Socialism is a centrally planned economy; controlling the money supply. In the United States, like most countries, we have a mixed economy; part Socialism and part Capitalism. What you might call Corporatism; collusion between government, corporations and labor unions to control the economy and money supply at the expense of workers and consumers. I support a truly free economy, with very little intrusion or intervention by government. Even Reagan's "Reaganonomics" was based on government intervention into the free market. It was based on "supply side" economics, which is rooted in Keynesianism.
The fact of the matter is, government has grown substantially and consistently since FDR, and that includes all of the Republican years. To me, there is no real difference in politics between Republicans and Democrats, except for Ron Paul.
mike m:
I asked three simple questions, and I get - as is typical of Paul supporters - a long series of Ron Paul talking points. I believe that sufficiently provides me the answers I sought.
In politics, there are no simple questions, and certainly no simple solutions. Forgive me for actually trying to explain my answers, instead of just using 15 second sound bites and platitudes. That's the problem with politics today. Most people just look at what's on the surface, rather than digging to find the root causes of our economic problems. If you ask a Republican what the cause of the financial crisis was, he'll say Fannie and Freddie. If you ask a Democrat, he'll say lack of regulations. They are both right, to a degree, but neither considers the root causes. Peter Schiff predicted the mortgage crash in 2006 and was laughed at. Well, nobody's laughing now. Peter Schiff is running as a Republican for Senate in Connecticut. Tell me, would you support Peter Schiff, or is he just another Paul supporter and RINO?
mike m:
When someone wants to know what time it is, they don't need a lecture on the Theory of Relativity. They want to know, well, what time it is.
When "yes" or "no" will suffice, they are not simple answers.
Here are two more, mike m:
Do you believe the WTC was blown up on 9/11/2001 as part of a government conspiracy?
Do you believe Barack Obama was born on the United States?
A yes or no will do.
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